Subject: Re: FYI: Your dialog isn't Modeless
From: Martin Sevior (msevior@mccubbin.ph.unimelb.edu.au)
Date: Sat May 27 2000 - 04:30:18 CDT
On Sat, 27 May 2000, Martin Sevior wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, 26 May 2000, Paul Cubbage wrote:
>
> > I bcc'd Jef Raskin my comments and he replied:
> >
> > I have some comments on Martin's note (I am not sure who is
> > communicating to
> > whom here).
> >
> > "Open 4 windows on your desktop, now which window does your symbol go
> > into?" From a UI point of view the answer is "The Window Most Recently
> > Focussed".
> >
> > I disagree. As soon as you have windows, you have modes. If one of the
> > windows has the system focus, then it will behave differently than the
> > other
> > windows if, say, you try to type into it. Any other window will require
> > a
> > click in it (or some such) before you can type, but that one can be
> > typed
> > into directly. I think there is a quote in my book about windows being
> > modes
> > in sheep's clothing.
> >
>
> "Modeless" in this context means the application is not frozen while the
> dialog is up. There are plenty of cases where I strongly believe you want
> the application to be frozen with an open dialog. "Insert Symbol" is one
> case. I believe "Word Count" is another, there are many more that we will
> get around to.
I meant "DON'T" want. I think faster than I can type, which isn't saying
much.
By the way, most Unix windows mangaers allow a change of focus by moving
the mouse pointer into the window. The window manager I use
(Enlightenment) is configured to do that immediately. Your point about the
widget sets can be addressed using the gtk widget set by writing an "easy"
theme for it. Check Out
If you want something changed in gtk go and code it. If it is good people
will use it. Welcome to Free Software.
Cheers!
Martin
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