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>From owner-abiword-dev@abisource.com Thu Jul 5 23:17:03 2001
Hi,
> It seems pretty clear to me. The files in src/other/spell/xp/ have the
Those files have been modified from the original ispell release by your
So I guess the question becomes, are all of those modifications to ispell
> Understood WRT Mozilla, but isn't OpenOffice under the GPL?
> The problem with this that the original Ispell license (classic BSD)
Hmm, that is a problem for GPL? Are you sure? What about LGPL? Does anyone
> > So what will it be. I really hope that you are willing to release it
Are you sure about the advertising clause? Lots of BSD code with similar
> As for pspell, if it dlopen()'s the ispell module, the legality is
Good point.
> ( Of course, we could try to convince the copyright holders of ispell
Since the only person mentioned in the advertising clause is Geoff, perhaps
" This product includes software developed by unpaid contributors"
which is certainly true of all of our projects! ;-)
It might be worth a try. If that works and is compatible with LGPL and your
Is it worth a try?
Take care,
Kevin H.
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From: Kevin B.Hendricks <khendricks@ivey.uwo.ca>
To: Aaron Lehmann <aaronl@vitelus.com>,
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Subject: Re: Copyright of Modified Ispell Code
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 00:17:02 -0400
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> "original Ispell license".
developers and the file newMain.c has been added and does not have any
license info in it at all.
GPL, LGPL, or something else.
We (OpenOffice) are dual licensed, one of which is the LGPL. OpenOffice is
not licensed under the normal full GPL.
> is *NOT* compatible with the GPL. It has an advertising clause, even
> in the version included with AbiWord:
>
> * 4. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this *
> software * must display the following acknowledgment:
> * This product includes software developed by Geoff Kuenning and
> * other unpaid contributors.
know?
> > under a license which will allow other programs such as OpenOffice and
> > Mozilla to use it.
>
> It isn't our choice. It's actually illegal to distribute a build of
> AbiWord that contains ispell since the licenses are not compatible.
> And needless to say, we can't just change the license of ispell unless
> we include the same GPL-incompatible advertising clause in the new
> license!
clauses are integrated into many projects.
> questionable but quite possibly okay.
> to change the license. I count over 250 contributors to ispell, and
> some of them are bound to disagree. Plus, their email addresses aren't
> included. Forget it. )
we can get him to wave the use of his name for non-profit projects like ours.
I don't think anyone would have a problem with saying just:
changes to ispell are LGPL'd or BSD'd then Kevin Atkinson could make an
ispell module for both of us to use (with your changes to ispell) and the
whole thing could be LGPL'd which should be perfectly legal for you to link
too.
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