Re: FreeType and patents [Re: further notes on using Pango]

From: Martin Sevior (msevior@mccubbin.ph.unimelb.edu.au)
Date: Fri Apr 26 2002 - 11:22:13 EDT

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    On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, Leonard Rosenthol wrote:

    > At 2:55 PM +0100 4/26/02, Tomas Frydrych wrote:
    > > > Where does Apple hold these patents?
    > >From the docs that accompany the latest stable release, I
    > >understand USA and Japan, but that might not be accurate -- the
    > >FreeType document is not certain about this and it is dated 1999.
    >
    > Here is a VERY recent message from David Turner (FreeType
    > lead) about the TrueType patents and Apple...
    >

    Is this real?? How could anybody possibly get a patent on a 2D dot
    product!!! That's over 200 year old maths! Someone should get Bill Gates
    to sue apple and get the patent overturned. I mean really!

    >
    > At 2:15 PM +0200 4/15/02, David Turner wrote:
    > >Tony Mobily a écrit :
    > >>
    > >> Hi David,
    > >>
    > > > did you check when the patents:
    > >>
    > >> Patent #1 : US5155805: Method and apparatus for moving control points in
    > >> displaying digital typeface on raster output devices
    > >>
    > >> Filed on May, 8 1989
    > >>
    > >> Patent #2 : US5159668: Method and apparatus for manipulating outlines in
    > >> improving digital typeface on raster output devices
    > >>
    > >> Filed on May, 8 1989 too. Actually, the two patents were filed and granted
    > >> concurrently.
    > >>
    > >> Patent #3 : US5325479: Method and apparatus for moving control points in
    > >> displaying digital typeface on raster output devices
    > >>
    > >> Filed on May 28, 1992
    > >>
    > >> ...will expire?
    > >> It's going to be 10 years soon, and...
    > >>
    > >
    > >Add 20 years to the filing date. This means that patents #1 and #2 will
    > >expire on May, 8, 2009 (in about 7 years from today)
    > >
    > >I ahve finely analyzed the patent and I'd like to remark the following:
    > >
    > > Patent #1 protects the _exact_ computation performed by a MIRP instruction.
    > > (basically a dot-product in 2D space, yekk..)
    > >
    > > Patent #3 protects _approximations_ of this computation, since these might
    > > generate an outline that is slightly different, but still produce correct
    > > bitmaps !! FreeType doesn't infringe on it, by the way..
    > >
    > >Seems Apple really wanted to "lock" the use of TrueType :-)
    > >
    > >
    > >Cheers,
    > >
    > >- David Turner
    >
    > --
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    > Leonard Rosenthol <mailto:leonardr@lazerware.com>
    > <http://www.lazerware.com>
    >



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