From: Andrew Dunbar (hippietrail@yahoo.com)
Date: Tue Feb 19 2002 - 13:27:43 GMT
There just happens to be discussion on this topic
today
at Slashdot:
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/02/18/2212250
Andrew Dunbar.
--- Paul Fredrickson <qmoto@dsl-only.net> wrote: > I
seem to have read somewhere that KDE and GNOME use
> different dnd protocols
> right now, (KDE uses XDND, GNOME uses Xde?) I also
> seem to remember Miguel
> accusing KDE of implementing it wrong, but I don't
> know. I also read that
> both camps had agreed to use version 2.0 of the XDND
> protocol (in Qt and
> GTK+) for their next major releases, so it probably
> hasn't happened yet. I
> don't really know how any of the many protocols
> work, but there was a good
> paper at
>
> www.freedesktop.org/standards/
>
> but the site seems to be down at the moment.
>
> Hope this helps someone.
>
> --Paul
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrew Dunbar" <hippietrail@yahoo.com>
> To: <abiword-dev@nyorp.abisource.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 3:51 AM
> Subject: Re: Cut and Paste from KDE apps to AbiWord?
>
>
> > --- Chris Winne <chris@micro-mania.net> wrote: >
> On
> > Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 11:24:47PM +0100, Michiel
> > > Toneman wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Martin,
> > > >
> > > > I can't paste from abiword to vim or gvim.
> Other
> > > way around works fine
> > > > though (and no, I didn't forget to go into
> insert
> > > mode in vi ;-) ).
> > > >
> > > > Strange, huh? Is this an issue with the 'true'
> > > X-clipboard (the ^C ^V)
> > > > behaviour in for instance Mozilla and the
> > > 'selection gets stored for
> > > > middle mouse paste' function. B.t.w. even if I
> > > select and then ^C in
> > > > abiword, I can't paste to vim/gvim.
> > > >
> > > > Greetings,
> > > >
> > > > Michiel Toneman
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, 2002-02-17 at 11:39, Martin Sevior
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Folks,
> > > > > I would really like to get to the bottom of
> > > this. See bug 2348 in
> > > > > bugzilla.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.abisource.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2348
> > > > >
> > > > > To summerize my investigations:
> > > > >
> > > > > copy and paste works fine with the following
> > > apps into abiword.
> > > > >
> > > > > emacs
> > > > > gnome-terminal
> > > > > netscape
> > > > > galeon
> > > > > xterm
> > > > > konquerer
> > > > > gnumeric
> > > > >
> > > > > I cannot copy and paste from kword into
> abiword.
> > > > >
> > > > > Copy and paste works works fine from abiword
> to:
> > > > >
> > > > > emacs
> > > > > gnome-terminal
> > > > > netscape
> > > > > galeon
> > > > > xterm
> > > > > konquerer
> > > > > gnumeric
> > > > > kword
> > >
> > > <truncated>
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > [OK, I can send this now to nyorp.abisource.com.
> > > Although nyorp.abisource.com
> > > and abisource.com are both 137.48.69.6,
> > > abisource.com has MX mail.abisource.com,
> > > while nyorp.abisource.com does not.
> Interesting...
> > > I suppose the local DNS
> > > could be out of sync?]
> > >
> > > Anyways...
> > >
> > > I have found some strange behaviour myself,
> which
> > > is does seem related
> > > to some extent ^C/highlight buffers..
> > >
> > > In vi (vim), if I highlight text in abiword with
> > > nothing in the ^C buffer, and
> > > insert w/middle mouse to a blank vim file, the
> first
> > > time I get message:
> > >
> > > No inserted text yet
> > > Hit ENTER or type command to continue
> > >
> > > Hitting enter inserts the text, but also ends
> insert
> > > mode.
> > >
> > > This message occurs only the first time text is
> > > inserted.
> > >
> > >
> > > By highlighting a different word, I can get the
> > > middle mouse to combine the
> > > two buffers.
> > >
> > > In abiword: highlight "First"
> > >
> > > middle mouse in vim gives "First"
> > >
> > > In abiword: highlight "Second"
> > >
> > > middle mouse in vim gives "SecondFirst"
> > >
> > > In xterm: highlight "AAAAA"
> > >
> > > middle mouse in vim gives AAAAA
> > >
> > > Back to Abiword, highlight "Third"
> > >
> > > middle mouse gives ThirdSecondFirst
> > >
> > > NOTE: sometimes the behaviour is a bit eratic
> and
> > > not entirely exactly
> > > reproducable, though I can produce eratic
> behaviour.
> > > I've had it prepend
> > > the abiword highlight buffer to that already in
> the
> > > buffer from an xterm
> > > window, for example.
> > >
> > > ALSO: I don't also have to enter "insert" mode
> in
> > > vim to insert text.
> > >
> > > ALSO(2): I believe the ^C convention has
> affected
> > > the output of the
> > > middle mouse buffer, but I could be mistaken. It
> > > could have just been
> > > my imagination.
> > >
> > > On Kword:
> > >
> > >
> > > If I highlight or ^C text from abiword, it can
> go
> > > into kword with the
> > > middle mouse.
> > >
> > > If I highlight text in kword, it will not insert
> > > into abiword, nor an xterm,
> > > nor asedit.
> > >
> > > If I ^C text in kword, I can middle mouse it
> into an
> > > xterm, or an asedit
> > > window, not abiword. The ^C text from abiword
> is
> > > retained to be inserted with
> > > ^V both in abiword and asedit. Looks to me like
> > > kword maps a highlight
> > > somewhere else (nowhere?), and maps the ^C to
> both
> > > of what I consider to
> > > be the standard buffers.
> > >
> > >
>
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