Subject: Re: lists stuff
From: Randy Kramer (rhkramer@fast.net)
Date: Tue Nov 28 2000 - 07:35:22 CST
Joaquin,
Just so I can follow along, what version of Word are you using?
(Word97, Word2000?)
Randy Kramer
Joaquin Cuenca Abela wrote:
>
> Martin wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 27 Nov 2000, Joaquin Cuenca Abela wrote:
> >
> > > > The word dialog does not allow all the cool features we allow.
> > >
> > > Martin, I've double checked the word list's dialog, and I don't
> > see what are
> > > the features that we allow and that word doesn't allow. What are these
> > > features?
> > >
> >
> > OK maybe I do MS an injustice. Here is what we can do that I think MS
> > cannot.
> >
> > 1. Show a preview of the current list in real time.
>
> ? The word's dialog box shows all the time a preview of the current list
>
> > 2. Change the starting value of the list to any value you like.
>
> ??? Format->Lists and bullets (sorry, I have here a french version and I
> don't know the english label of the items)
> Select (for instance) the tab "Numbers", and select the preview with
> 1. ----
> 2. ----
> 3. ----
>
> (which is pretty natural, because is the type of list that we want to
> create) now, we want to customize the list because we want to start with a
> special value (say, 4), so we click in the "Customize" button (which, again,
> seems pretty natural) and you will see a spin button with the label
> "Starting value" (or something like that), just pick the value "4", and you
> will have a list that start with the value 4.
>
> > 3. Change the text delimeters around each label to anything you like.
>
> again, say that we want a list like (1)
> select the preview with
> 1. ----
> 2. ----
> 3. ----
>
> click in "Customize", and the first top label in the left edge ("Numeration
> format", or something like that) shows
> +--------------+
> |1. |
> +--------------+
>
> (the 1 has a gray blackground, because you cann't change it in this label)
> now, just erase the dot, and add a couple of '()'
>
> +--------------+
> |(1) |
> +--------------+
>
> and you have a list like
> (1) ----
> (2) ----
> (3) ----
>
> > 4. Change the text delimenters between levels of lists to anything you
> > like.
>
> choose a multilevel list in the lists dialog, click in "Customize", and
> change whatever you want (the customize dialog of a multilevel list has a
> lot of options)
>
> > 5. Do instant updates to preview to reflect the changes theusers makes to
> > their selection.
>
> ?? the preview of the dialog box that pops up when you select "Customize"
> shows exactly that
>
> >
> > Can MS make lists elements like
> >
> > <<2>>--<3>.(i)
> > <<2>>--<3>.(ii)
>
> if you mean a list like
>
> <<2>>--<3>.(i) first line
> <<2>>--<3>.(ii) second line
> <<2>>--<3>.(iii) third line
>
> MS can do it very very easily... when you click in customize, select the top
> left label (again), and change the contents from
>
> i.
>
> to
>
> <<2>>--<3>.(i)
>
> > We can rather easily. How useful is this level of flexibility? I don't
> > know but Power Abi users can do it.
>
> So, again, what are the problems with the MS list's dialog box? it seems to
> me much more intuitive than our dialog. For instance, say that you want to
> create a bulleted list, with some fancy symbol (not a bullet), in the MS
> dialog box, you will see a serie of little previews with sexy symbols, just
> pick your favorite one and it's all (you can even use a custom image like
> symbol, and in abi you cann't (if I remember correctly))
>
> In Abi you have to select your symbol from a drop menu, and you don't see
> the symbol until you have selected it. You only can see the name of the
> symbol, but the name of the symbol gives FAR less information than a preview
> of the symbol, for instance, several days ago Mike sent an email just
> wondering about what symbols were associated with each name:
>
> <quote>
> TRIANGLE_LIST Don't know what this should look like.
> DIAMOND_LIST A8 ("Symbol" font)
> STAR_LIST Don't know which of the stars to use.
> IMPLIES_LIST Don't know what this should look like.
> TICK_LIST Don't know what this should look like.
> HAND_LIST If this is to be a hand with a finger pointing right, I've got
> it at 0x46 in Wingdings.
> HEART_LIST A9 ("Symbol" font)
> </quote>
>
> Cheers,
>
> PS: The word dialog has some little flaws, but they are mostly
> implementation errors. Their UI rocks.
>
> --
> Joaquin Cuenca Abela
> cuenca@celium.net
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