Re: ability to not to use gnome print under gnome build

Subject: Re: ability to not to use gnome print under gnome build
From: Dom Lachowicz (cinamod@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu Nov 30 2000 - 14:44:51 CST

Hi,

You do not need gnome print for Windows. As its name implies, you need this only for the gnome build.

And if you're going to do a Gnome build, you'll need gnome print whether or not you happen to be running kde or E or FVWM or Blackbox or whatever. It's just like if I want to run Konqueror instead of nutscrape. I need the KDE2 libs installed. I can be running gnome or whatever as my desktop so long as I have the KDE libraries installed. If you don't want to download and install the gnome-print rpm, I suggest downloading the stock GTK Abi build.

Dom

>From: Randy Kramer
>To: abiword-dev@abisource.com
>Subject: Re: ability to not to use gnome print under gnome build
>Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 10:51:01 -0500
>
>I haven't tried following this discussion enough to fully understand
>it. Also, I haven't downloaded AbiWord 0.7.12, else I might know the
>answser.
>
>I hope (?) we won't need Gnome print on Windows.
>
>I hope the inclusion of Gnome print won't preclude me from running
>AbiWord from the KDE desktop. (I'm a Linux newbie. So far I prefer KDE
>1.2 to Gnome. I'm planning to install KDE 2.0 very soon.)
>
>Thanks,
>Randy Kramer
>
>
>
>
>Sam TH wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 30, 2000 at 02:32:55PM +0400, Vlad Harchev wrote:
> >
> > > > 1) gnome-print doesn't require copyright assignment, so if you
> > > > contributed to it, no one could license it under any other license
> > > > without your approval. So you don't have to worry.
> > >
> > > That's very nice. The problem is - if I just fix a pile of bugs, I can't hold
> > > copyright for bugfixes/fixed code. I have to write any module myself to claim
> > > copyright on it. That's a bad thing about bugfixing.
> >
> > Well, the FSF standard is that copyright assignment is required for
> > more than about 10 lines of code. Beyond that, you have copyright to
> > the code you contribute, and people attempting to use it under a
> > different license would have to get you permission.
> >
> > >
> > > > 2) There is ZERO possibility of GNOME doing anything like this. The
> > > > GNOME libraries that are GPL are that way so that proprietary code
> > > > can't use them, not to make money. If someone tried this, all of
> > > > GNOME would revolt.
> > >
> > > First, all members of gnome foundation can link to GPLed gnome libraries. The
> > > membership costs $10K/year currently. Granted, it's rather cheap currently..
> >
> > First, this is untrue. If it were true, I would resign from the
> > foundation, and I suspect Dom and Martin and Joaquin would also, as
> > would important people like Havoc. Your ten grand buys you some
> > influence with the Foundation board. (And not too much, at that.) It
> > does not buy you any code.
> >
> > > Second, one rather crucial gnome library is GPLed only in order to raise
> > > money. The library's author told me that privately. That's very disappointing,
> > > so I'm very careful about improving GPLed libraries now.
> > >
> >
> > I'm sad if this is true, however I find it unlikely. Almost everyone
> > in the project is committed to free software.
> >
> > For a better perspective on making libraries GPL, see the essay at
> > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/why-not-lgpl.html
> >
> >
> > sam th
> > sam@uchicago.edu
> > http://www.abisource.com/~sam/
> > GnuPG Key:
> > http://www.abisource.com/~sam/key
> >
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