Re: Fwd: Re: Pango?

From: Andrew Dunbar (hippietrail@yahoo.com)
Date: Sun Apr 28 2002 - 22:20:29 EDT

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     --- Hubert Figuiere <hub@nyorp.abisource.com> wrote:
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    > To: Blue Lizard <webmaster@dofty.zzn.com>
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    > Subject: Re: Pango?
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    > From: Havoc Pennington <hp@redhat.com>
    > Date: 25 Apr 2002 23:36:57 -0400
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    > Blue Lizard <webmaster@dofty.zzn.com> writes:
    > > On Thu, 2002-04-25 at 02:46, Martin Sevior wrote:
    > > > It contains a lot of what we need but not
    > everything we need. Nor is it
    > > > cross platform.
    > >
    > > This is an issue I have been thinking about a lot.
    > The more abiword is
    > > integrated into gnome/pango (or for that matter
    > any other platform
    > > specific thing) the more features get developed on
    > that, and left out or
    > > made different on other platforms. Like, if we
    > use pango for kerning,
    > > what does win32 do? qnx? solaris/cde users that
    > dont want no stinking
    > > gnome build?
    >
    > The options as I can figure them out are:
    > a) Use platform-specific engines,
    > Pango/Uniscribe/etc.
    > b) Use one engine on all platforms
    >
    > So a) has the problem you described, and b) doesn't.
    > If Pango is used
    > as the engine in b) then there is no problem like
    > the one you mention.
    > If you go with a), then Pango isn't creating the
    > problem you mention,
    > the decision to go with a) is creating it.

    I've been led to believe that Pango doesn't yet
    support
    many scripts on the Win32 back end. So if we use
    Pango on Win32 we'll actually lose support for several
    scripts that "just worked" because Windows implicitly
    uses Uniscribe if it's there.

    That said, I'd expect abstracting them to be a pain
    and from what I've read about ATSUI on OSX it would be
    a great pain and not without serious problems.

    Andrew Dunbar.

    > Havoc
    >
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