Re: Fwd: Re: Link Grammar (fwd)

From: Dom Lachowicz (doml@appligent.com)
Date: Wed Mar 27 2002 - 11:36:15 EST

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    On Wed, 2002-03-27 at 11:34, Hubert Figuiere wrote:
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    > Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 18:51:42 -0600 (CST)
    > From: Jared Davis <jared@aiksaurus.com>
    > To: abiword@aiksaurus.com
    > Subject: Re: Link Grammar (fwd)
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    > Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 15:25:37 -0500
    > From: David Temperley <dtemp@theory.esm.rochester.edu>
    > To: Jared Davis <jared@aiksaurus.com>
    > Cc: John Lafferty <lafferty@cs.cmu.edu>, sleator@cs.cmu.edu
    > Subject: Re: Link Grammar
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    >
    > Jared -
    >
    > Sorry for the ridiculously long delay in getting back to you.
    >
    > We've been discussing the whole licensing issue. It looks like we're now
    > going to switch over to a totally free license, so that the code can be
    > used free-of-charge by anybody for anything (as long as they acknowledge
    > us). We'll make this official when we release the next version (which
    > we're hoping will be fairly soon). So, you should be able to use the
    > parser in your AbiWord project.
    >
    > Davy
    >
    > On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, Jared Davis wrote:
    >
    > > Hello,
    > >
    > > I am writing to you on behalf of the AbiWord project. AbiWord is a Free word
    > > processor developed completely by volunteers. Our web site address is:
    > > http://www.abiword.org/
    > >
    > > Recently, we have been looking into adding a grammar checker to AbiWord. In
    > > our searching, we found your Link Grammar. Needless to say, your API is
    > > beautiful and would be easy to integrate with our project. There has been
    > > some real excitement over the idea that we might be able to add grammar
    > > checking so easily.
    > >
    > > We are, however, somewhat confused about all of the licensing issues that
    > > would result from this. I am, therefore, writing to you to see if we can
    > > come to some sort of an agreement that will work out for everyone.
    > >
    > > AbiWord is released under the GNU General Public License, and as a
    > > consequence we have a bit of a problem. The README.txt which
    > > accompanies your Link Grammar states:
    > >
    > > "We feel that our system (or a derivative of it) could be useful in a
    > > number of commercial applications. We would be pleased to discuss
    > > terms with those wanting to use our system in this way. Without an
    > > explicit agreement with the authors (listed below) such use is
    > > forbidden. By "commercial use" we mean selling a product or service."
    > >
    > > While the AbiWord project itself does not sell any product or service, our
    > > license allows others to modify AbiWord and even verbatim copies so long
    > > as their changes are released under the same license. As an example,
    > > Red Hat Linux (www.redhat.com) includes AbiWord on their CDs which are
    > > sold in stores.
    > >
    > > So, as far as we can tell, the inclusion of the Link Grammar in AbiWord would
    > > prevent Red Hat and others from doing this sort of thing. Unfortunately, the
    > > GPL requires that they have this freedom, so we cannot legally include the
    > > Link Grammar in AbiWord.
    > >
    > > However, if you would be willing, maybe a small change in the licensing of
    > > the Link Grammar would be enough to allow us to integrate it with AbiWord.
    > > In particular, a clause that explicitly permits using the Link Grammar
    > > without restriction in GPL software would solve all of these problems.
    > >
    > > This would not be a terribly unusual license. For example, TrollTech
    > > (www.trolltech.com) has a GUI toolkit called QT, which they sell to
    > > commercial development firms while maintaining a free version for GPL
    > > programs. Their toolkit has become the basis for a large body of software in
    > > the Free Software community, and is still making them a profit in the
    > > commercial arena.
    > >
    > > I understand that this is asking a lot, and the fear would probably be that
    > > potential customers would not purchase the link grammar. However, there may
    > > be advantages to consider as well. In particular, if AbiWord were able to
    > > use your Link Grammar, you would have a great example to show to any
    > > commercial developers who are interested in using it.
    > >
    > > For your reference, the complete text of the GNU General Public License is
    > > available from the GNU web site:
    > > http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html
    > >
    > > Thank you very much for your time, I look forward to working with you on this.
    > >
    > > Jared Davis
    > >
    > > --
    > > Jared Davis
    > > jared@aiksaurus.com
    > > Love all, serve all.
    > >
    >
    >
    >
    >
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