Re: the work on the new documentation

I searched for these e-mails you've sent in the past to the mailing
list, apparently you sent those e-mails in April 2008. Marc Maurer CC'ed
me his answer to your e-mail, then I replied to Marc Maurer's e-mail
which I also CC'ed to you. However, your reply to my e-mail –
http://www.abisource.com/mailinglists/abiword-dev/2008/Apr/0150.html –
was only addressed to the mailing list, and not CC'ed to me. Because I
was not subscribed to the mailing list at that time, I never received
your e-mail.

Probably the best place to start are the three links I gave in one of my
previous e-mails, and someone (Marc Maurer?) who could upload your
contributions to SVN. You can check out the current work with the
command "svn co http://svn.abisource.com/abiword-docs/trunk
Manual-NG/en/" (enter this in the terminal, make sure subversion is
installed first) and then open the abiword.xml file from the terminal
with Yelp (as described in one of my previous e-mails. For more help
contact me directly instead of via the mailing list.

On Mon, 2008-09-08 at 22:47 +0200, Marc Hoffmann wrote:
> Hello Alexander,
>
> i offered my help in april under the topic "User manual in german". J.M.
> Maurer gave me the link
> to the svn of the manual - but i'm not very common with the docbook
> format. and it is difficult
> to work with it under windows.
> To one of my last mails under that topic you answered by yourself, that
> you agree with the others,
> that it wouldn't a good idea to translate the old manual to german, but
> that you could need some help
> the new english manual. I answered a week later that it would be a nice
> idea to take part at the work
> on the new english manual, but that i needed some advice how to do it
> and especially for handling
> the docbook format - but i never got anymore answers to that topic, so i
> left it.
>
> sorry that i was a little rude in my mail, but it made me a little bit
> angry to read this "cry for help" as i
> offered you my help months ago.
>
> so you said you now work with Yelp - to work with Linux Software is no
> problem for me - i can use
> a whole distribution in a virtual machine and i have Suse Linux 11 on my
> external Harddrive installed,
> so i can boot it every time i needed, and it is no problem to install
> all needed packets - for Yelp or
> for Docbook,..
>
> Regards Marc
>
>
>
> Alexander van Loon schrieb:
> > I didn't notice your offer to help, I just subscribed to this mailing
> > list. I was subscribed to this mailing list when I initially started
> > working on the documentation, but then I unsubscribed because the
> > messages to this mailing list weren't relevant for me. So that's why I
> > never knew about your offer to help, sorry. I'm a bit surprised though
> > that those people who gave you a link to the documentation in Abiword's
> > SVN didn't refer you to me.
> >
> > Currently, the new documentation is written with Yelp in mind – the help
> > system of the GNOME desktop – and the idea is that the documentation for
> > Yelp can be converted to HTML or another file format and small
> > modifications to the contents are made to make the documentation
> > suitable for use on other Operating Systems. So using Unix/Linux to work
> > on the documentation would be preferred, all you need is a text editor
> > (for example gedit, which is included in GNOME) and Yelp (included in
> > GNOME).
> >
> > In your e-mail you seem to imply that you think I speak for Abiword
> > project as a whole, but I feel more like an outsider to be honest. The
> > regular developers simply don't have time for writing the documentation,
> > so that's why I volunteered in 2007 to do it. If your offer for help
> > still stands, I hope you can help out. It would be a shame if all my
> > work would be left unfinished. You write that you are disappointed that
> > you didn't get any assistance in becoming a contributor, but please
> > understand that we all have the best intentions. If you need more
> > information, don't hesitate to send me an e-mail, I'll gladly help you.
> >
> > On Mon, 2008-09-08 at 18:40 +0200, Marc Hoffmann wrote:
> >
> >> Stop crying, I offered my help for the documentation months ago - i
> >> even wanted
> >> to translate it to german,...
> >> but the last, i heard from the mailing list was a mail with the link
> >> to the svn of the
> >> abiword documentation. as i asked how I can work on the uncommon
> >> docbook format
> >> on a windows machine i got no reply (i even was ready to work on Linux
> >> and asked for
> >> some hints for it), so i decided to stay just a normal abiword
> >> user,...
> >> My offer to help with the documentation is still active, but at the
> >> moment, i have not
> >> much time by myself, so i can not do very much - months ago it looks a
> >> little different
> >> - i had more time, then i wanted to have and i decided to spend it
> >> with something,
> >> that makes sense --- without success,...
> >> opensource projects like abiword, that are addicted to volunteers
> >> always cry for help
> >> when it is almost too late,... why don't you recruit the people, when
> >> they offer their
> >> help to you?
> >> I was very disappointed, that my offer to help you was trampled with
> >> feet like it was,...
> >>
> >> Regards Marc
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
Received on Tue Sep 9 09:41:21 2008