Subject: Re: Commit: Various Lists UI improvements.
From: Randy Kramer (rhkramer@fast.net)
Date: Wed Feb 07 2001 - 14:21:50 CST
Just for the record, you can collapse and expand portions of an outline
in Word. In Word 97 outline view, each heading is preceded by a + or -
sign (much like a treeview control). And it works much like a tree
control -- if the heading is collapsed, you click on the + and it
expands, if it is expanded, you click on the - and it collapses.
I understand that what Leonard alludes to may be a different way of
choosing which sections to expand and collapse. And, he is right, this
expanding and collapsing can only take place in Outline view (in current
Windows versions of Word -- IIRC, in the dos versions I didn't have to
switch view modes, but that was many moons ago). I take advantage of
the current design, usually keeping the outline collapsed to a
convenient level in outline view. I can navigate quickly in outline
view, then switch to normal view to instantly expand the outline for
reading / editing.
Randy Kramer
Sam TH wrote:
>
> On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 12:55:19PM -0500, Leonard Rosenthol wrote:
> > At 7:34 AM -0500 2/1/01, Randy Kramer wrote:
> > >I'm not exactly sure why they distinguish an outline from a list, I'm
> > >not even absolutely sure they do (it's been about a year since I used
> > >Word on a daily basis).
> >
> > And Word's model for outlines may NOT be the one that we want
> > to take - in fact, I would suggest that it is NOT the way we want to
> > go.
> >
> > Word's idea of an outline is more of an alternative view of a
> > document, rather than a section of a document that can be
> > edited/viewing in an outline (hierarchical list) structure. Both
> > have their place, but they are VERY different. The latter, which Abi
> > does, is IMO, more useful.
>
> I would like to very strongly agree here. I was only briefly a word
> user, and a wordperfect user for long before that. And in my opinion,
> there are a number of areas where Word was never even close to as good
> as WP.
>
> Outlines are the clearest example of those, since Word didn't even
> have the kind of outlines that wordperfect did. As Leonard said,
> they are part of the document, and just as much a part of the text as
> the numbers in a list in Abi. But you could collapse parts of it, and
> view just the levels you wanted.
>
> Actually, I'm not sure if you could collapse a part of it, or just
> show headings 1-3, for example. I'll download the free version and
> get some screenshots.
>
> But this is an area where we can be *much* better than word.
>
> sam th
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