From: Joaquin Cuenca Abela (e98cuenc@yahoo.com)
Date: Tue Aug 20 2002 - 07:55:00 EDT
--- Karl Ove Hufthammer <lister@huftis.org> wrote:
> Joaquin Cuenca Abela <e98cuenc@yahoo.com> wrote in
>
news:20020820104202.92026.qmail@web14612.mail.yahoo.com:
>
> > I came late to the whole discussion about smart
> > quotes, so maybe all that are old news, but does
> the
> > current scheme take in account that in some
> languages
> > (like french) the "smart quote" is in fact two
> > characters (opening quote should be substituted by
> > opening chevron, non-breaking space) ?
>
> No, the *current* scheme doesn't support any other
> languages than
> American English.
>
> > in french should be quoted as:
> > example of <<_quoted text_>>
> >
> > (the _ is a non-breaking space)
>
> Actually, it shouldn't be the U+00A0 full-width
> non-breaking
> word space, but a narrower non-breaking space
> (perhaps a 'thin
> space' -- I don't remember, but I believe there is
> some
> information on this at the Unicode Web site).
do you mean a quarter of a cadratin? I don't know for
sure. You should use a thin space before ?! and such
in frech, but I don't know if it's a thin space or a
full one after and before the opening and closing
quotes (after a quick search in the net, it seems that
it's a full space, but I don't know if the authors of
the pages that I've consulted are right here).
> I don't think this will be very difficult to
> support.
>
> > In addition, quoted multi line text should be
> > typesetted as:
> >
> > This is << a multi
> > << line text quoted
> > << a la french
> > << fashion >>
>
> This will be much more difficult to implement. Does
> any WP support
> this?
Not that I know of
> LaTeX, does, right?
Nope. LaTeX does the wrong thing here. Frenchies
have been doing horribles workarounds to make that
work on LaTeX (hand-made macros to place manually
quotes at the start of the line, etc.)
> > And, just to make things a bit more funny, quoted
> text
> > inside quoted text should be written as:
> >
> > This is <<_quoted "text" a la frech_>>
>
> The PDF document I cited has some information on how
> various WPs
> and DTP programs handle this. But I believe the
> quote character
> selection UI I suggested will provide at least a
> usuable way to
> insert the correct quote character, even with 'dumb'
> smart quotes
> support.
Yes, the character selection UI look pretty good. I
just wanted to know if more complex algorithms were
possible with the new smart quotes implementation.
Cheers,
=====
Joaquin Cuenca Abela
e98cuenc@yahoo.com
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