Re: smart quotes, summary of discussion

From: Karl Ove Hufthammer (lister@huftis.org)
Date: Tue Aug 20 2002 - 08:10:59 EDT

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    Joaquin Cuenca Abela <e98cuenc@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:20020820115500.42772.qmail@web14601.mail.yahoo.com:

    >> Actually, it shouldn't be the U+00A0 full-width non-breaking
    >> word space, but a narrower non-breaking space
    >> (perhaps a 'thin
    >> space' -- I don't remember, but I believe there is some
    >> information on this at the Unicode Web site).
    >
    > do you mean a quarter of a cadratin? I don't know for
    > sure. You should use a thin space before ?! and such
    > in frech, but I don't know if it's a thin space or a
    > full one after and before the opening and closing
    > quotes (after a quick search in the net, it seems that
    > it's a full space, but I don't know if the authors of
    > the pages that I've consulted are right here).

    I found this Microsoft page
    <URL:http://www.microsoft.com/typography/developers/fdsspec/punc.htm>,
    which says:

            Language note: In French typographic usage the colon
            (deux-points) is preceded by a non-breaking word space
            (espace mots insécable) and followed by a normal word
            space. The semi-colon (point-virgule) is preceded by a
            non-breaking thin space (espace fine insécable) and
            followed by a normal word space. In Microsoft Word 97
            the non-breaking space U+00A0 is automatically inserted
            when the French language is selected and a colon or
            semi-colon are typed.

            Traditionally in French typography the left pointing
            guillemets are followed by a non-breaking word space or
            thin space of 1/8 the em and the right proceeded by a
            non-breaking word space or thin space of 1/8 the em.

            Language note: In French typographic usage the left
            pointing guillemet - guillemet ourvant is followed by a
            non-breaking word space (espace mots insécable) and the
            right pointing guillemet - guillemet fermant is preceded
            by a non-breaking word space. In Microsoft Word 97 the
            non-breaking space U+00A0 is automatically inserted when
            the French language is selected and a guillemet is
            typed. Some French typographers prefer to use a
            non-breaking thin space (espace fine insécable) with the
            guillemets.

            Language note: In French typographic usage the question
            and exclamation marks (point d'exclamation et point
            d'interrogation) are preceded by a non-breaking thin
            space (espace fine insécable) and followed by a normal
            word space. In Microsoft Word 97 the non-breaking space
            U+00A0 is automatically inserted when the French
            language is selected and a exclamation or question mark
            are typed.

    -- 
    Karl Ove Hufthammer
    


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