Frank vs. Hubert (was: Re: CVS: commit hub abi/src/wp/ap/cocoa ap_CocoaApp.mm)

Can the two esteemed AbiWord developers please move their shouting match
of personal criticism, insulting, bickering and complaining to personal
E-mail?

I am rather bored and not impressed by word usage by both sides after
having been exposed to the much stronger stuff created during the
confrontation in my country between the pro-disengagement and
anti-disengagement camps.
                                --- Omer from Israel

On Sat, 2005-09-03 at 20:02 +0100, Francis James Franklin wrote:
>
> On 3 Sep 2005, at 19:07, Hubert Figuiere wrote:
> > "I don't see an indentation style" you told me when asked you to
> > respect
> > the one currently in use, after I had reindented your code to match
> > what
> > was already there.
>
> I don't remember saying that exactly, but I will say now that in
> general I do respect the existing indentation, certainly more so than I
> really want to.
>
> > "nil is not 0. NULL is not 0" I said. Each time I have to go thru and
> > fix that.
>
> And I hate them both, but anyway the code I committed had already been
> written when we had that conversation.
>
> I have to say that your recent attitude is not making me feel like
> co-operating.
>
> >> I agree that the Mac port is not ready for a proper 2.4 release but
> >> it's
> >> getting there. (We released 2.2 for OS X and that wasn't close to
> >> acceptable until about 2.2.3.)
> >
> > 2.2.7, when I fixed the justification code YOU broke.... But given how
> > nobody did complain, I wonder why I have fixed it. Wait. Because I was
> > trying to use AbiWord for once.
>
> Fine. Thank you for fixing it. When did I ever claim to be (a) perfect,
> or (b) using AbiWord? No. I was developing AbiWord because (a) it was
> fun, (b) I needed something to distract me from my life, (c) I like
> hanging out in #AbiWord, and (d) you weren't working on it any longer.
>
> I have a lot of respect for the work you did originally on the Cocoa
> port, and I am happy that you are once again working on it, but I'm
> getting very sick of your complaining.
>
> >> I never expected to have grammar and
> >> equations working so soon in 2.4, so I'm feeling optimistic.
> >
> > I am not. There are still more major issue to be addressed that are
> > more
> > important that MacOS X specific features (/me point at the tool palette
> > thinking that it will be more work to make it XP than it would have
> > been
> > if it had been done this way since the beginning)
>
> Unlike you, I am not a god who knows everything there is to know about
> Cocoa. A lot of the work I've done on AbiWord has been about learning
> how to use Cocoa, and the Tool Palette was just such an exercise. It
> was never intended to be xp because it was too late for the 2.2
> development cycle. No one has expressed a real interest in making it
> xp, so why get so upset?
>
> >> I really don't understand why you're getting so upset over this.
> >> Clearly
> >> there is a problem linking against gtkmathview, but there's no way for
> >> you to fix it unless you build gtkmathview yourself, which you don't
> >> seem to want to do.
> >
> > I was trying to fix things, and suddenly the whole thing BREAK and no
> > documentation has been updated to explain what to do.
>
> Now you stop with the B.S. I've lost count of the number of times I
> told you about gtkmathview being in the tar-ball. If you don't want to
> download the tar-ball is that really my fault? If you think people
> shouldn't have to download it, then I agree completely, but you're a
> developer and should at least have compiled gtkmathview yourself if you
> didn't want the tar-ball.
>
> Now can we please stop this arguing, because I've forgotten the last
> time we agreed about anything.
>
> Regards, Frank
>

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