Re: Vincent_ what is the expected behavior for Frame setting dialog

Hi Simo

> In Abiword, changing the border color or thickness menus (on the left)
> directly changes the value for all currently drawn segments. So it is
> very hard to set different values for the left and right segments (say
> black and 1 for the left border, and red and 6 for the right border).
> Also, if we toggle a segment that was previously off, instead of the
> segment being created with the color and thickness values shown in the
> two boxes on the left, it is created with the default values (black
> and 1/2). This is why I said I had to fight the UI.

Can we think that:
 Is it setting top, left, bottom,right separately useful to users?
   1. if not, we can see then the same, just as MS Word, Open Office does
   2. if yes, if users don't toggle any segment off, we display as
'Box Border' , then set all borders.
                  if users toggle left segment off, we display as
'Left Border' , then set left borders.

please advise,

Vincent

在 2012年4月4日 下午7:14，Simon Larochelle <larochelle.simon.1@gmail.com> 写道：
>
> Let me explain more precisely what I meant in the previous e-mail.
>
> By settings, I mean only the content of the two boxes on the left
> (thickness and color) and not the value of the left, top, bottom and
> right borders before pressing the apply button. The value of these
> parameters is always what is shown in the preview area.
>
> As for GNUMERIC, what I like is that setting a border is a well
> defined three steps process:
> 1) Set style and color
> 2) Apply these settings to some segments (left, top ...) or all segments
> 3) Press Apply
>
> In Abiword, changing the border color or thickness menus (on the left)
> directly changes the value for all currently drawn segments. So it is
> very hard to set different values for the left and right segments (say
> black and 1 for the left border, and red and 6 for the right border).
> Also, if we toggle a segment that was previously off, instead of the
> segment being created with the color and thickness values shown in the
> two boxes on the left, it is created with the default values (black
> and 1/2). This is why I said I had to fight the UI.
>
> Regards,
>
> Simon
>
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:57 PM, Ingo Brückl <ib@wupperonline.de> wrote:
>>
>> Simon Larochelle wrote on Tue, 3 Apr 2012 20:35:37 -0400:
>>
>>> My preference would be that we adopt the same type of dialog behavior
>>> that GNUMERIC uses to set the borders of cells.
>>
>> That would be "settings and preview show actual format of box/table/frame
>> when dialog opens".
>>
>> But GNUMERIC doesn't seem to allow to switch cells while dialog is open
>> whereas AbiWord does.
>>
>>> Concerning the issue of switching dialog boxes, it may be better to always
>>> reinitialize the preview area to the current state of the frame
>>
>> But isn't that confusing? Shouldn't the preview area show what it *would*
>> look like if applying the settings (rather than what the frame *looks* like)?
>>
>>> On the other hand, the settings should stay the same.
>>
>> I agree.
>>
>> Ingo
Received on Wed Apr 4 17:51:40 2012