Re: outlines vs. lists (was Re: Commit: Various Lists UI improvements.)


Subject: Re: outlines vs. lists (was Re: Commit: Various Lists UI improvements.)
From: Mike Nordell (tamlin@algonet.se)
Date: Wed Feb 07 2001 - 02:31:29 CST


Leonard Rosenthol wrote:
>At 9:59 AM -0500 2/6/01, Randy Kramer wrote:
>>Mike -- have you ever used a folding editor? Was it useful? If not,
>>was it because the concept was not useful or because it wasn't, for
>>example, integrated with an IDE?
>>
> I'm not Mike, but I use a folder editor pretty frequently,
> and it's VERY useful for editing source code since I can close up
> blocks that I'm not currently interested in to see more logic w/o
> scrolling.

This is my view of it also.

> In an outliner, folding of "heads" is appropriate for the
> same reasons - you want to see more of the context w/o scrolling. But
> I don't think we need folding in AbiWord for 1.0 - though if we do
> want to provide outliner functionality (either as a sectional element
> or as an alternative view) we WILL need it at some point.

I'll borrow two terms from M$ Word(7.0); "Page Layout View" and "Normal
View".

What AW currently only supports is the "Page Layout View" which is IMO just
a quick version of print preview. It's useful when making the printed pages
look good, but when editing reasonable amounts of text I think it only
hurts. It becomes harder to browse, the cursor has to jump over page breaks
and so on.

That said, I've found the ability to fold sections to be useful in "Normal
View", but in "Page Layout View" i _think_ it could be wrong. This view is
to give a quick preview of how the printed pages will look. If folds were
allowed in this view it no longer displays a print preview.

The short version: I'd first like to see the "Normal View" type implemented.
For that view folds would make sense.

/Mike



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